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Re: Question 4 - Straight or curved tunnel?
- Subject: Re: Question 4 - Straight or curved tunnel?
- From: Philip Bambade <bambade@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:47:27 +0200 (CEST)
Dear colleagues,
I was notified by Peter Tenenbaum that my question below was not
distributed to the WG1 mailing list. Now it should reach you.
Sincerely yours,
Philip Bambade.
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Philip Bambade wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Concerning evaluating straight/curved linac tunnels for the ILC, is it
established that there is no significant impact on vertical emittance growth
up to multi-TeV CMS energies (in case one would like to make the ILC site
compatible with such an upgrade in the future) from:
- synchrotron radiation emitted in the required bends,
- chromatic filamentation of the phase-space in case of mismatched betatron
or dispersion functions at the input or along the linac ?
Is there a reference which can be consulted describing the results of
calculations or simulations, taking into account, for the latter effect, the
larger correlated energy spread needed e.g. in CLIC to mitigate
wake-field effects ?
I think it is an important question and we should have quantitative answers
to be able to feed any political debate on the articulation of ILC and CLIC
with proper technical arguments on the compatibility of the sites.
I have asked these questions to our CLIC colleagues who attended Snowmass,
and they promised to make a list of all aspects relevant to this and
invest some work in this direction. But maybe there are papers with
computations of this already available in the literature ?
Yours sincerely,
Philip Bambade.
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Fax. 0033-(0)1-69079404 Fax. 0041-22-7823084
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
It's not as clear cut as this because the magnitude of the dipoles used as
guide fields in the continually curved case is comparable to the magnitude
of the dipoles used as steering correctors in simulation studies of the
laser-straight case. This means that:
1. We may well find that the MPS implications of dipole failure in the
stright tunnel are just as dire as the implications in the curved tunnel,
or
2. That since the guide field in the curved case is equivalent to a few
hundred um of systematic misalignments of the quads, the placement of the
quads along the curve of the tunnel produces enough guide field to prevent
disaster even in the absence of the guide field from the dipoles.
I realize that this is not the way a storage ring works -- there, if the
guide fields fail, the beam leaves the vacuum chamber. The difference here
is that we are talking, essentially, of a "storage ring" with a radius of
curvature which is orders of magnitude larger than any existing facility;
the rules are different.
Having said that: I agree with Marc's judgement that it is desirable to
have places in the linac where a runaway beam can be safely dumped. The
dumps can probably be relatively simple (at least compared to the main
dumps) because of the low average power: assuming that a dump may have to
take a few hundred bunches, if we dump that many bunches at a given
location once per hour the average power is still only 65 watts. We would
want to be sure that the abort kicker cannot accidentally put the beam into
an aperture in the linac other than the runaway beam dump. One possibility
would be to put a short warm section into the linac, and use a circular
collimator with an aperture much smaller than the cavity iris as the dump.
The strength of the kicker could be such that it could put the beam on the
dump aperture but not onto a cavity iris. It would probably be necessary
to sweep the beam on the collimator as well (say with a vertical kicker to
get the beam pointed at the collimator, and a swept horizontal kicker to
spread out the train on the face of the collimator).
The reason I want this is the following: there are two proposals for the
MPS interlock in ILC's LET: the pilot bunch and a more conventional system
which looks at magnet currents and fault statuses, RF fields, etc, and
which also limits the amount that devices can be changed by operators
during luminosity running (the former system catches faults but not cockpit
errors; the latter system prevents cockpit errors). In the case of BC or
BDS, both pilot bunch and hardware permits can provide equal levels of
protection, and so there is an added level of safety. In the linac, if
there are not a series of runaway beam ramps, then the pilot bunch provides
no protection and only hardware permits can prevent a disaster. This means
that each device's MPS thresholds have to be set correctly because if they
are set wrong there is no additional protection from a pilot bunch. I am
worried that this would be an error-prone and failure-intolerant protection
system.
-PT
1) Does a kinked-tunnel linac require additional protection
collimators? Does a non-straight linac require abort kicker / dump
systems. In totalling the failure modes, effects, time-scales and
likelihood, we find that a laser straight tunnel is relatively easy
to protect. Because of this, the proposed pilot bunch scheme does not
contribute to the linac MPS, and is really intended only for the
bunch compressor / beam delivery MPS. With a curved or kinked tunnel,
the potential failure of the linac dipoles becomes one of the main
failure modes which the MPS design must be effective against. It may
become necessary to implement several abort kicker/dump stubs along
the length of the linac. The number required should be roughly equal
to the number of kinks or one per kilometer (the spacing appropriate
for a 10-15 us pilot to main train gap). In the kinked scheme
protection collimators may be effective. Both of these have
significant cost impact of perhaps a few 10's of M$.